That Was Always There

Help Revyn Sadri in Windhelm sneak a stolen gold ring back into Viola Giordano’s house – or tell Viola the truth instead.

That Was Always There is a small moral dilemma in Windhelm. Revyn Sadri, who runs Sadri’s Used Wares, bought a gold ring that he believes was stolen from Viola Giordano, and he wants it quietly returned before anyone blames him. You can play the discreet burglar or simply tell Viola what happened. A short miscellaneous quest in Eastmarch.

How to start

  • Visit Sadri’s Used Wares in Windhelm and talk to Revyn Sadri.
  • He explains the ring problem and asks you to sneak it into Viola’s house – “put it in a dresser or something” – and promises to make it worth your while.
  • Accept, and you receive Viola’s Gold Ring.

Walkthrough

Option 1: Plant the ring

Viola Giordano’s house is in the Stone Quarter, across the street from the House of Clan Shatter-Shield. The front door has a Master-level lock, so bring plenty of lockpicks or come back with better Lockpicking. Sneak inside (being seen while trespassing is a crime) and place the ring in the dresser immediately to the right of the front door. Then return to Revyn, who pays you.

Option 2: Tell Viola

Instead of breaking in, you can find Viola and tell her that Revyn has her stolen ring. She pays you for the information and the ring finds its way home without any lockpicking.

Choices and consequences

  • Planting the ring: Revyn rewards you with leveled gold and becomes a possible marriage partner.
  • Telling Viola: Viola rewards you with leveled gold and becomes a possible marriage partner instead. Revyn is unhappy about being exposed and treats you coldly afterwards.

Rewards

  • Leveled gold from Revyn or Viola, depending on your choice.
  • A new marriage option (Revyn or Viola).

Tips and notes

  • The Master lock is the main obstacle. If you are not ready for it, telling Viola is the quicker route and needs no skills at all.
  • Trespassing is a crime, so check that nobody is home or watching before you open the door.
  • Both routes pay leveled gold, so the real decision is which of the two characters you would rather have as a potential spouse.

Objectives

Plant Viola’s Gold Ring in Viola Giordano’s House
Tell Revyn Viola’s Gold Ring has been planted

Walkthrough

Choices & consequences

Planting the ring pays leveled gold from Revyn and makes him marriageable. Telling Viola pays leveled gold from her and makes her marriageable, but Revyn becomes unfriendly.

Known bugs & fixes

Lore notes

Characters in this quest

Revyn Sadri in Skyrim: Dunmer owner of Sadri’s Used Wares in Windhelm, Speech trainer, marriage candidate and the man behind That Was Always There.
Viola Giordano in Skyrim: the nosy Imperial of Windhelm who hunts the Butcher, helps you search Hjerim in Blood on the Ice and is a marriage candidate.

Creatures you will meet

Locations

Windhelm is the ancient, snow-covered capital of Eastmarch and the Stormcloak stronghold – home of Ulfric Stormcloak’s Palace of the Kings and the Gray Quarter.

Factions

Quest rewards

Sources checked: Fandom Elder Scrolls wiki (quest article), Skyrim game files

That Was Always There

Quest type
Game
Quest giver
Revyn Sadri (Sadri’s Used Wares, Windhelm)
Location
Hold
Faction
Prerequisites
None
Previous quest
Next quest
Gold
Leveled gold
Rewards
New marriage option (Revyn Sadri or Viola Giordano)
Missable
Quest ID
Favor019